I’m gearing up for the debate, which you can watch on Hulu, among other places. I’m fully stocked with a full Nalgene, a RitterSport Dark Chocolate with Marzipan, and a fresh pair of action pants. As I did last week, I’m liveblogging it, with the most recent entries at the top of this post. Please jump in in the comments section if you’d like to join in the fun. If you get tired of my blathering, 538, Jezebel, and Slog (among others) are all liveblogging as well.
7:32: Ok, so, first hit before poisoning myself with the punditry. I think that this debate went back and forth. McCain really did score some strong hits, and Obama missed some easy shots that he could have taken, which was a major bummer. That said, McCain’s puerile behavior really detracted from his performance in the debate. Obama seemed much more cool, collected, and on point, although he did get a big snippy a few times. McCain, on the other hand, was behaving like a petulant child being forced to eat broccoli. The end result: I think that Obama “won,” but that he could have done a better job. Obama’s close in particular was great, though, very nice.
7:32: Cindy looks like a fire engine.
7:31: Michelle, always classy. That dress/pearl set is just gorgeous.
7:31: Nice closer from the moderator.
7:29: Obama: attacking the Washington establishment, ok. Highlighting the economy, ok. Not so sure about the rehit on McSame; I think McCain has really tried to distance himself from Bush in this debate. Nice way to stress the “fundamental decency and generosity of the American people.” I’m starting to get into this. It’s beautiful, simple, and clear. (Although I don’t agree that being in the middle class is something to aspire to, but that’s another issue.) Loving the stress on working together as a nation, “spirit of service,” turning the speech onto US, rather than himself (as McCain did). This is a really nice closing speech.
7:27: McCain: “my friends,” “new direction,” “maverick,” blah blah blah blah fucking blah. Yeah, we do need to make healthcare and education available, McCain. Too bad your plans won’t do that. Careful steward my big fat behind. Yeah, crashing planes and winding up in jail is a great way to put your country first.
7:27: Woo hoo! Obama gets the last word.
7:26: Can we just agree that vouchers are stupid?
7:25: I just noticed…where is McCain’s flag pin?
7:24: More to the point, did McCain seriously just tell Obama to pay attention?
7:23: Why do people say “Warshington”?
7:21: Hehe, nice NCLB joke, Obama.
7:20: Woah, McCain actually referenced Teach for America. And then suggested that people don’t need certifications to teach. “Teaching certificate? I don’t need no steenkin’ certificate!”
7:19: Yes, because capitalism worked so well for the economy, let’s just port the same model over to education.
7:18: Education is the civil rights issue of the 21st century?
7:17: Hell yeah we need more money and reform, Obama! You rock that education policy.
7:16: Hooray, education! And thank you for highlighting the fact that the American education system totally sucks right now.
7:15: Yeah, let’s mock “health” of the mother. You know what? When women have to abort children late in pregnancy for health reasons, it is devastating and horrible. So don’t you fucking belittle women who have experienced that, you pompous old white fuck.
7:14: Glad to hear McCain laughing at Obama when he talks about the need for common ground. That’s real mature.
7:13: I think Obama is presenting his position on women’s rights very well here.
7:12 For the record, I am proud to say that I am a part of the “extreme element” of “the pro-abortion movement” in America. My views are so extreme that I think women should be allowed to make their own choices about their own bodies.
7:12: You are seriously bringing up the born alive thing, John McCain? And please don’t use the term “partial birth abortion,” because it is NOT A MEDICAL TERM! It is meaningless!
7:11: “We have to change the culture of America…” by imposing our moral values on Americans. How unAmerican!
7:10: YEAH BABY! I am so glad to see Lily Ledbetter being introduced here, and SO SO glad to see Obama stressing that McCain doesn’t support equal pay for equal work.
7:09: Ok, I’m glad to hear Obama supporting the right to choose, but unfortunately he is not really answering the question. Interesting interpretation of the Constitution, as well, arguing that it should not be altered by state referendum. (Isn’t the whole structure of the Constitition supposed to support state’s rights?)
7:09: Glad to see Obama openly stating that Roe v Wade is hanging in the balance, for anyone who’s missed the boat on this issue.
7:08: Ah, so he’s not imposing a litmus test, but if you support Roe v Wade, you are “not qualified” to serve, so it amounts to the same thing.
7:08: Yes, Mr. McCain, Supreme Court justices are an important issue. And when you let your wacked out Conservative ideology interfere with your interpretation of the United States Constitution, that is an even more important issue.
7:07: I like how the moderator tried to put McCain back on track there. I wish I believed that McCain cared more about qualifications than morals.
7:06: REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS! OH YEAH BABY! YEAH YEAH YEAH!
7:06: Ok, seriously, can we, like, ban dogs in city limits or something?
7:05: Uhm…McCain is going off into outer space here.
7:04: Transplants are part of a gold-plated, Cadillac insurance policy? I’ll be sure to mention that to my friend who is waiting for a liver.
7:04: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THERE ARE NO FUCKING MANDATES IN THE OBAMA PLAN!
7:03: Can we please stop talking about Joe the plumber? I think we are all over it now. Also, have I mentioned how much I hate my neighbor’s dogs lately?
7:03: Hey, thanks for reading my comment, Obama!
7:02: Ok, now we’re getting into the meat of things. And I LOVE to hear him referencing the tax on benefits.
7:01: I wish Obama would stress that the McCain plan would result in MORE uninsured by forcing businesses to drop health care plans.
7:00: Have you noticed how McCain blinks in rage whenever Obama is nailing him?
7:00: No mandates, no fines. If you actually READ Obama’s crappy health plan, you would know that.
6:59: That’s right, fatties, YOU are responsible for the problem’s with America’s health care system. It makes me want to throw on my jogging shorts right this minute to FIX AMERICA.
6:58: Just for reference, healthcare for a family of four (who would get $5k under McCain’s plan) costs around $12k/year. So unless you know how to magically add $7k to the income of a family, please let me know.
6:57: Nice, Obama is laying out his health plan in a pretty clear way. Oh course, it should be a nationalized single payer health plan with mandates, not a shitty between compromise that won’t really work, but it’s better than McCain’s plan.
6:56: Oh yes, please, let’s do talk about healthcare.
6:56: Yeah, Obama doesn’t want to trade with countries that permit abuse of workers and labor organizers. I think that’s pretty reasonable, myself.
6:55: Ok, now we’re just getting random with the attacks.
6:54: Nice way to call the car companies out on lagging on cleaner cars, Obama.
6:53: As Kate just said in the comments, I feel like McCain is a little out of control tonight, careening around with the crazy high b.p. Did you notice the whistling thing he’s doing? Like his bronchial tubes are constricted from stress?
6:53: Wow, almost a whole hour before McCain says Obama “doesn’t understand” in a totally patronizing way!
6:52: How did we get from energy independence to drugs? Did I miss something?
6:51: Drill now, drill forever?
6:49: Ooooh, yes, talk about mortgaging ourselves to China. Yeah baby.
6:48: Hey, numbers. Thanks, Obama.
6:48: Donde estas el numero, senior McCain?
6:46: Hey, way to ask for hard numbers when discussing oil consumption.
6:45: Cockamamie? Dude, no one under 80 uses that word.
6:44: How about talking about how Palin cut funding to special needs children in Alaska?
6:44: Ok, so Obama talks about Biden in terms of policy, skills, and experience, and McCain talks about Palin as…a role model for women and special needs children. Excuse me while I vomit.
6:43: Sigh, maverick crap again. I am still seething over the role model to women thing. Seethe. I just ate an entire row of Rittersport.
6:43: A FUCKING ROLE MODEL TO WOMEN??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?>! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
6:42: How do you defend Sarah Palin?
6:40: I am loving this defense of Biden. This is the kind of rhetoric that Obama is good at, when he is on point. Way to turn that fighting for the little guy rhetoric back onto McCain.
6:40: Interesting way to address the running mate issue. I think this should be an easy win for Obama if he plays it well.
6:39: Hey, Obama, don’t interrupt. Be nice. Be patient. Wait. Wait like a cat waiting for a gopher. You’ll git ‘im.
6:38: Ok, I am loving this. “Let me tell you who I associate with.” This is a great response to McCain’s slime.
6:37: Right, how can the Obama campaign control fraudulent individuals? Claiming that he is responsible for the Acorn scandal is just…crazy.
6:37: Way to bring in Reagan, the Republican hero, in the Ayers thing.
6:36: Yeah, and how old was McCain when Obama was eight?
6:36: Wow. Ayers? Acorn? Jesus Christ, McCain.
6:35: “Disagree without being disagreeable,” eh?
6:34: Is McCain really saying what I think he’s saying? Oh, yeah, he is. He is using the old “military as crutch” argument to pretend that what happens at their rallies is hunky dory. Also, I know those “Sarah Palin is a Cunt” shirts would come back to haunt us. Thanks, wannabe activists!
6:35: Obama made a mistake there with the “bad people” thing, since McCain actually has made a point of talking about the fact that Obama is a good guy at his rallies.
6:33: Wait…what?
6:33: Man, if I was eating a square of chocolate every time McCain interrupted, I’d be well into a second bar by now. McCain is acting like a child.
6:32: And a repudiation of the Lewis thing, with a note that the Obama campaign also issued a statement immediately afterwards. Should have happened four minutes ago, but still..improving.
6:31: Finally, Obama! And way to go on the interruption, AGAIN, McCain. Getting riled up, are we?
6:31: Ok…now we’re getting there.
6:30: Obama doesn’t seem to be doing too well here. He’s missing a few easy hits on the negative campaigning issue. He should be calling McCain out for those death threats, he should be savaging him on the palling around with terrorists bull. Go on the offensive. GO GO GO!
6:30: Maybe because your healthcare plan sucks.
6:29: Dude, you have to address the Lewis thing. If you don’t, you are going to be accused of evading. Say something. Anything. You’re right that we need to focus on the issues, but TALK ABOUT THE LEWIS THING. Right now. Go.
6:29: Oh, way to deliver the smackdown on the whining about town hall meetings. And way to point out that other orgs are funding negative ads.
6:28: Nice way to cite the poll on negative ads. And I can’t believe McCain interrupted him. Yeah, that’s real mature.
6:28: This is a key moment for Obama. He has a chance to really flip this against McCain.
6:27: Do you really want to claim that Obama spent more on negative ads than you? Oh, wait, the Republican party is buying your negative ads, not you.
6:26: Uhm, yeah Obama did repudiate Lewis’ remarks.
6:26: Ooooh…bringing up John Lewis. I hope that Obama turns that back on him neatly.
6:25: Oh, yeah baby. This is fucking great. McCain doesn’t even bother to answer the question, just whines about not getting town hall meetings.
6:25: Wow, frickin’ GREAT question calling them out on the nastiness of the campaign. Will he mention the death threats being made at McCain/Palin rallies?
6:24: Petulant much?
6:24: Wait, McCain “vigorously opposes” the war in Iraq? Or was that just a poorly worded sentence.
6:23: I’m a maverick! I’m a maverick! Look at me!
6:22: Nice response from Obama to that word vomit from McCain. And way to come up with a crisp, clear example of opposition against the Dems. I feel bad that he feels like he needs to respond to the maverick thing at all, but I can see why he does that. I’m also glad to hear him clearly disputing the claim that he wanted to raise taxes on people making $42k/year.
6:20: Great question (can you balance the budget in four years?) McCain says “sure I can,” and then “I’m not Bush.” And then goes on to say that spending freezes are the way to go. Sigh. Yes, Kate, he is babbling. Can the moderator cut in here?
6:19: The planeterium thing AGAIN? First of all, an “overhead projector” is not the same thing as a planeterium projector. Second of all, according to my top secret source, the planeterium never actually saw that money.
6:18: Ok, earmarking makes up a tiny chunk of the budget.
6:17: Ooooh, I’m loving his moderator. That was a firm steer back on topic. And, uh, for the record, Obama does support offshore drilling (which is one of his problems). And, a spending freeze is NOT the way to fix a failing economy, dipshit.
6:16: Woah, what does home ownership have to do with balancing the budget, McCain?
6:16: “Ethic of responsibility,” nice one, Obama.
6:15: Obama claims his plan is “pay as you go,” which seems to run contrary to the claim made by the moderator. I would love to see someone reliable crunch the numbers here. (Does number crunching remind anyone else of the scene in The Phantom Tollbooth where Milo eats numbers and describes their flavor?) Anyway, back to Obama. Loving the stress on healthcare, education, and energy policy.
6:14: How can Obama make sure that the rescue plan is structured properly as President if it’s…already gone through?
6:14: Woah, calling out the economic plans of both candidates! Nice!
6:13: $455 billion in deficit? Woah nelly. That is a lot of moola.
6:12: Is that an Adlai Stevenson quote?
6:12: McCain is acting like a snotty little brat at the dinner table, man.
6:11: Oh, Obama, honey, don’t repeat yourself.
6:11: SERIOUSLY? CLASS WARFARE?!?!?!?!! WTF?
6:10: Oh God, Joe the plumber, again! And the redistribution of wealth! COMMUNIST!
6:10: Incidentally, here’s the Obama tax cut calculator.
6:10: Nice hit on the McCain tax breaks, Obama. Glad to hear the 95% number finally being voiced in a debate, crisply, with nice, clear language.
6:09: SINISTER!
6:08: Uhm, let’s distinguish between small businesses and the corps you want to suck up to, McCain.
6:08: Oh, McCain is going for the everyman story, only on steroids. I wonder if “Joe” exists.
6:07: Uhm…where is McCain going with this?
6:06: Jobs, tax cuts for the middle class (defined as $250k and less), helping homeowners (stresses that McCain is giving money away to banks, and that we need writedowns), and the need for long term change.
6:05: Hey, specifics from Obama!
6:05: Ok, now McCain’s talking about buying mortgages. Why isn’t he mentioning write downs?
6:04: McCain is kind of making me want to go to sleep. He sounds like he’s talking through a banana. And, you know, not really saying anything.
6:03: Just say “no” to broken hips.
6:02: I love the moderator already. “We’ve already heard the talking points…let’s try to give the public something they haven’t heard.”
6:02: Loving McCain’s tie! Very subdued, classy.
6:01: Here’s Slog’s liveblog (as opposed to just their website, linked above).
6:01: The pundit is making this sound like a cagefighting tournament. “Everything is on the line!”
6:00: Wow, the rock riffs for the introduction are AWESOME.
5:58: Vicki, the only way I can get through a debate is with Rittersport. Do they not have it out there? Need me to send you a box for fortification purposes?
5:58: Hulu feed is live.
5:37: The focus of this debate is domestic policy, which I suspect means that we are going to hear a lot of talk on the economy. I am also hoping to hear more on healthcare, and I would love to hear about reproductive rights, although I don’t have high hopes. Word also has it that McCain will be busting out the Ayers crap, which I think/hope is going to backfire on him in a major way. I hope Americans are smart enough to realize when guilt by association is being used as a political tool.